{"channel":"tech","content":"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43137085 (<green> additional comments at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43109669 )\r\nLINKS TO\r\nhttps://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/02/history-evaporating-before-our-eyes-gamers-lament-twitchs-new-video-storage-limits/\r\n\r\n<<< Popular Amazon-owned game streaming platform Twitch announced Wednesday that it will be imposing a 100-hour limit on the archived video highlights users can preserve permanently on the site. And while Twitch says that only 0.5 percent of users will be affected by these new limits, gamers are warning that the move threatens to eradicate large swaths of recent gaming history from the Internet.\r\n\r\nOn social media, though, many Twitch users are expressing outrage over what the loss of these clips will do to the shared history of their gaming communities. \"Who the hell cares about discovery or engagement?\" one streamer wrote. \"People use highlights to archive, and you're destroying YEARS of speedrunning and other communities' history.\"\r\n\r\nThe speedrunning community seems particularly likely to be negatively affected by Twitch's move. As VTuber VanityFox points out, \"many speedrunners use highlights to document world records and important moments... the amount gaming history they are deleting to save money and shove short form content on your feed is incalculable.\" >>>\r\n<xantham> the word \"incalculable\" does not mean what they think it does.\r\n\r\n<red> I tend to be opposed to this << aggressive fetishization of archives >>.  There is no value to much of this content; the fact that there is a lot of no-value content, if anything, makes it even less valuable.\r\n\r\nOf course, there is some entitlement of << you have to do this thing for me for free >>.  And, the arguments that \"it's too expensive for streamers to keep their own archives\" are ... also bad.\r\n\r\nThere is also \"just upload it to Youtube!  Youtube will store everything!\"  With the (<red> correct) reply that Youtube will probably stop doing \"unlimited free video storage\" soon as well.\r\n\r\n<red> it is slightly odd that they don't seem to be allowing for the option of \"pay us to keep more than 100 hours of << highlights >>\".  although, at some point, they aren't highlights, they're just an archive (<xantham> of crap).","created_at":"2025-02-22T16:07:27.011532","id":256,"llm_annotations":{},"parent_id":null,"processed_content":"<p><a href=\"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43137085\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43137085</a> <span class=\"colorblock color-green\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\u2699\ufe0f</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\">( additional comments at <a href=\"https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43109669\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43109669</a> )</span>\n  </span>\r</p>\n<p>LINKS TO\r</p>\n<p><a href=\"https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/02/history-evaporating-before-our-eyes-gamers-lament-twitchs-new-video-storage-limits/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/02/history-evaporating-before-our-eyes-gamers-lament-twitchs-new-video-storage-limits/</a>\r</p>\n<p><div class=\"mlq\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"mlq-collapse\" aria-label=\"Toggle visibility\"><span class=\"mlq-collapse-icon\">\u2212</span></button><div class=\"mlq-content\"><p> Popular Amazon-owned game streaming platform Twitch announced Wednesday that it will be imposing a 100-hour limit on the archived video highlights users can preserve permanently on the site. And while Twitch says that only 0.5 percent of users will be affected by these new limits, gamers are warning that the move threatens to eradicate large swaths of recent gaming history from the Internet.\r</p>\n<p>\r</p>\n<p>On social media, though, many Twitch users are expressing outrage over what the loss of these clips will do to the shared history of their gaming communities. \"Who the hell cares about discovery or engagement?\" one streamer wrote. \"People use highlights to archive, and you're destroying YEARS of speedrunning and other communities' history.\"\r</p>\n<p>\r</p>\n<p>The speedrunning community seems particularly likely to be negatively affected by Twitch's move. As VTuber VanityFox points out, \"many speedrunners use highlights to document world records and important moments... the amount gaming history they are deleting to save money and shove short form content on your feed is incalculable.\" </p></div></div>\r</p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\"> the word \"incalculable\" does not mean what they think it does.\r</span>\n  </span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-red\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\"> I tend to be opposed to this <span class=\"literal-text\">aggressive fetishization of archives</span>.  There is no value to much of this content; the fact that there is a lot of no-value content, if anything, makes it even less valuable.\r</span>\n  </span></p>\n<p>Of course, there is some entitlement of <span class=\"literal-text\">you have to do this thing for me for free</span>.  And, the arguments that \"it's too expensive for streamers to keep their own archives\" are ... also bad.\r</p>\n<p>There is also \"just upload it to Youtube!  Youtube will store everything!\"  With the <span class=\"colorblock color-red\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\">( correct)</span>\n  </span> reply that Youtube will probably stop doing \"unlimited free video storage\" soon as well.\r</p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-red\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\"> it is slightly odd that they don't seem to be allowing for the option of \"pay us to keep more than 100 hours of <span class=\"literal-text\">highlights</span>\".  although, at some point, they aren't highlights, they're just an archive <span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\">\n    <span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span>\n    <span class=\"colortext-content\">( of crap)</span>\n  </span>.</span>\n  </span></p>","quotes":[],"subject":"minimal value"}
