{"chain":[{"channel":"atacama","content":"<gray> I find that I script out an entire conversation, sometimes returning the interesting parts before the other person is ready to receive them.\r\n<red> that is: she says her entire side of the conversation before you get a chance to talk.\r\n<xantham> this is how i do my emails.\r\n----\r\n<green> Claude is writing the README files for the React and Swift apps. \u00a0This means we are about to launch.\r\n----\r\n<gray> My findings have been, that a policy of << only LLM-written code >> is possible today.\r\n<blue> It is the equivalent of a system where the human only writes the comments; the actual code is written by the *machine*.\r\n<red> where the boundaries between code and comment are, remains unclear.\r\n<xantham> trust not in those who work in PHP.\r\n<red> However: systems where one cannot *READ* the code are beyond our current ability. \u00a0Humans are better at debugging problems on production-size codebases.\r\n<xantham> give it three years, tops.\r\n----\r\n\r\nHow does the Atacama project interact with the production efforts of Yevaud Platforms LLC?","created_at":"2025-11-13T20:46:50.332121","id":702,"is_target":false,"parent_id":null,"processed_content":"<p><span class=\"colorblock color-gray\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udcad</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> I find that I script out an entire conversation, sometimes returning the interesting parts before the other person is ready to receive them.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> that is: she says her entire side of the conversation before you get a chance to talk.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> this is how i do my emails.\r</span></span></p>\n<hr class=\"section-break\" />\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-green\"><span class=\"sigil\">\u2699\ufe0f</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> Claude is writing the README files for the React and Swift apps. \u00a0This means we are about to launch.\r</span></span></p>\n<hr class=\"section-break\" />\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-gray\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udcad</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> My findings have been, that a policy of <span class=\"literal-text\">only LLM-written code</span> is possible today.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-blue\"><span class=\"sigil\">\u2728</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> It is the equivalent of a system where the human only writes the comments; the actual code is written by the <em>machine</em>.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> where the boundaries between code and comment are, remains unclear.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> trust not in those who work in PHP.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> However: systems where one cannot <em>READ</em> the code are beyond our current ability. \u00a0Humans are better at debugging problems on production-size codebases.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> give it three years, tops.\r</span></span></p>\n<hr class=\"section-break\" />\n<p>How does the Atacama project interact with the production efforts of Yevaud Platforms LLC?</p>","subject":"white shield (part 1)"},{"channel":"atacama","content":"<green> it would be great to have a useful \"reply-to\" button.\r\n\r\nIs it feasible to adopt a policy where *ALL* code must be written by an LLM?\r\n\r\nI think the answer is *yes*. (<red> but, it is not yet possible to adopt a policy where humans cannot *read* the code.)\r\n\r\n----\r\n\r\n<xantham> <<< does this mean that the Trakaido stats server can *finally* be moved out of the Atacama repo? >>>\r\n\r\n<green> a mis-matched parenthesis will make the block-quote not render.  I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature.\r\n<blue> trust not in those who do not proof their posts.","created_at":"2025-11-13T20:52:08.687048","id":703,"is_target":false,"parent_id":702,"processed_content":"<p><span class=\"colorblock color-green\"><span class=\"sigil\">\u2699\ufe0f</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> it would be great to have a useful \"reply-to\" button.\r</span></span></p>\n<p>Is it feasible to adopt a policy where <em>ALL</em> code must be written by an LLM?\r</p>\n<p>I think the answer is <em>yes</em>. <span class=\"colorblock color-red\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udca1</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> but, it is not yet possible to adopt a policy where humans cannot <em>read</em> the code.</span></span>\r</p>\n<hr class=\"section-break\" />\n<div class=\"mlq color-xantham\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"mlq-collapse\" aria-label=\"Toggle visibility\"><span class=\"mlq-collapse-icon\">\ud83d\udd25</span></button><div class=\"mlq-content\"><p> does this mean that the Trakaido stats server can <em>finally</em> be moved out of the Atacama repo? </p></div></div>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-green\"><span class=\"sigil\">\u2699\ufe0f</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> a mis-matched parenthesis will make the block-quote not render.  I'm not sure if this is a bug or a feature.\r</span></span></p>\n<p><span class=\"colorblock color-blue\"><span class=\"sigil\">\u2728</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> trust not in those who do not proof their posts.</span></span></p>","subject":"white shield (part 2)"},{"channel":"atacama","content":"<red> <<< we still need a \"reply-to\" button. >>>\r\n\r\nClaude is writing the README for the files.\r\n\r\nThis means that we might achieve a Project Milestone.  << The ability to require all changes relate to a change to the README file. >> (<green> This refers to the fact that we are operating on a \"comments only\" approach to the written React / Swift code. (<xantham> all edit requests must be phrased in the form of a question.)  )\r\n\r\n----\r\n\r\n<xantham> <<< I no longer write code.  I only write the instructions to write the code. >>>\r\n\r\nOnce a code base is mature enough, this becomes a reality.\r\n\r\nBut, initially, the goalposts are too remote.","created_at":"2025-11-13T21:03:08.570806","id":704,"is_target":false,"parent_id":703,"processed_content":"<div class=\"mlq color-red\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"mlq-collapse\" aria-label=\"Toggle visibility\"><span class=\"mlq-collapse-icon\">\ud83d\udca1</span></button><div class=\"mlq-content\"><p> we still need a \"reply-to\" button. </p></div></div>\n<p>Claude is writing the README for the files.\r</p>\n<p>This means that we might achieve a Project Milestone.  <span class=\"literal-text\">The ability to require all changes relate to a change to the README file.</span> <span class=\"colorblock color-green\"><span class=\"sigil\">\u2699\ufe0f</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> This refers to the fact that we are operating on a \"comments only\" approach to the written React / Swift code. <span class=\"colorblock color-xantham\"><span class=\"sigil\">\ud83d\udd25</span><span class=\"colortext-content\"> all edit requests must be phrased in the form of a question.</span></span>  </span></span>\r</p>\n<hr class=\"section-break\" />\n<div class=\"mlq color-xantham\"><button type=\"button\" class=\"mlq-collapse\" aria-label=\"Toggle visibility\"><span class=\"mlq-collapse-icon\">\ud83d\udd25</span></button><div class=\"mlq-content\"><p> I no longer write code.  I only write the instructions to write the code. </p></div></div>\n<p>Once a code base is mature enough, this becomes a reality.\r</p>\n<p>But, initially, the goalposts are too remote.</p>","subject":"white shield (part 3)"},{"channel":"atacama","content":"The great refactor has begun.\r\n\r\nIt makes sense to do it with the CLAUDE.md write.\r\n\r\n----\r\n\r\nWhat seas will this ship sail to next?","created_at":"2025-11-13T22:00:47.936772","id":705,"is_target":true,"parent_id":704,"processed_content":"<p>The great refactor has begun.\r</p>\n<p>It makes sense to do it with the CLAUDE.md write.\r</p>\n<hr class=\"section-break\" />\n<p>What seas will this ship sail to next?</p>","subject":"white shield (part 4)"}]}
